tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24336826.post7899313233265919967..comments2023-09-06T01:30:26.702-07:00Comments on The Out4Immigration Blog: Dealing with Victories and DefeatsOut4Immigrationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10239176341903642461noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24336826.post-76815051777128536922010-10-29T09:38:52.317-07:002010-10-29T09:38:52.317-07:00You're right, many Americans have no idea what...You're right, many Americans have no idea what the constitution says, actually believes we were founded as a "Christian nation" and can't separate their religion and what they personally believe as "right and wrong" from what should be actual civil law. I have too have talked to many people that buy into the "protecting traditional family" garbage and a good percentage of them will say "I'm fine with civil unions, but not marriage, because the bible says homosexuality is wrong and marriages are a church function". You can point out all you want that separation of church and state is already law, not just some "agenda" and that people getting married in Vegas to people they've just met in front of elvis impersonators isn't sanctified by the church but it's still legal, and people just won't let it sink in. If we fought hard for civil unions right now, stopped talking about marriage for the time being, and said all the things we say now about marriage for why we need it, I think it would pass fairly quickly. Polls show over 60% of Americans approve of gay marriage, if the question were civil unions that would probably jump to 80%. Let America get used to that, let FRC, NOM, AFA, et al become obsolete organizations that no one knows about anymore, and then push again to rename it marriage. It's really just semantics. As much as we don't want to admit it "separate but equal" came before desegregation and probably had to, that's how Americans think as disgusting as that is. I would rather have the rights now and argue terminology later. My wife and I are not getting any younger, and we can't wait forever.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11315722516591715925noreply@blogger.com